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Ignored and Underpaid - Anonymous employee Gravity Payments Employee Review

2.0
25 Jan 2015
Anonymous employee
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Pros

The people (non-management) are great. From sales to new employees Gravity hires pretty great culture fits. Little perks like free lunches. These are also a con due to them being a way to trick people into missing major flaws like pay and the hidden culture of management. But a catered lunch is a catered lunch.

Cons

Pay is REALLY low. Sure you'll get raises but you'll always be underpaid by at least 15-20%. You will constantly be told if you add more value you'll be paid more. Which you will be. Unfortunately the pay increase and percent value added will only increase your pay disparity. If you're a sales rep it's even worse. Its just bad, in fact some of the worst pay for any sales jobs I've seen Management will lie. They will look into issues like pay and benefits or culture and unless it fits their plans the data will be ignored. Or there will be committees that solve nothing and instead give the tiniest solution possible to keep your mind off of nothing actually being solved. Dan price. I used to approve of him and just thought he was busy. Too busy to notice. That is false. He knows what management is doing because he trains them to do it. I've seen it. He also runs some less than savory financials. And anyone who looks past the facade and has worked with him can attest to this. Sales reps are mostly the industry standard. They will lie and cheat. They'll just be nicer to a client while they do it. There are good ones, but many are not and no one cares. At least no one that can do anything. This list of con's can go on but with the company being rather small I can't reveal all or anonymity might be lost.

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Gravity Payments Response
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This is Dan Price. Founder and CEO of Gravity Payments. First of all, it sounds like you are very unhappy at Gravity, would prefer not to be here, and judging by the fact that you say you are currently working at Gravity, my guess is that you think you are stuck. To me, it sounds like the comment about management relates to issues with pay. I know what it is like to be angry and feel mistreated, and I know it has a major impact on my happiness and life when it happens. Not sure how the financials are less savory (I assume you mean our bookkeeping?), but our CPA firm is reputable (they are the ones that provide direction on how to keep the books) and our bank seems to be very satisfied with our performance. In designing Gravity, I have every intention of people being here because they want to be here and never because they are stuck. I am going to use your feedback as motivation to try to improve on just that. Although I agree people at Gravity are underpaid, hopefully they are underpaid less than they have been in our past. You see, when I started this company, I had nothing other than a little bit of savings from my high school jobs and some credit cards and student loans. I am embarrassed to say that we didn’t even have health insurance for a first few members to join the team. I remember in 2008, we were in the red big time. We almost all lost our jobs that year, but the team pulled together and we were able to move forward without any layoffs, benefits cuts, and importantly for our culture, we were the only company in the industry not to subject our clients to added fees. I also acknowledge the sacrifice that it is to work at Gravity. The team here bends over backwards for our clients and doesn’t get enough acknowledgement, appreciation, compensation, etc. In 2010 I received feedback from one of our tech support representatives that he was underpaid. After evaluating this I wanted to acknowledge him and the rest of the team for their contributions to the company after getting through the 2008 recession. I was asked, “what if someone is underperforming and doesn't deserve the raise.” I said, either you figure out a way to help them perform or help them find a job where they can perform because this is not optional. Since then, we have averaged between 13% and 14% raises for four straight years! Our competitors hate us because we are very disruptive with our business model. We charge so much less and provide much more, they are spending a lot of money trying to kill us. My solution is that if the goal is to increase pay, and it certainly is, perhaps we can push ourselves to constantly add more value and improve performance. We will constantly be getting significant raises, but yet still be in a way “underpaid”. In addition, this tactic has the outcome of making sure people aren’t trapped at Gravity. Theoretically, if they are adding more value than they are getting, they should be able to find another job and leave if it isn’t a good fit. I don’t want anyone to leave, but I really don’t want anyone to be trapped. This philosophy has had mixed results, but here are some of them: -Our turnover has been significantly below average for the positions, experience levels, age ranges of our team -We have averaged between 13% and 14% annual raises -To my knowledge, about 95+% of the people at Gravity are making more than they have ever made. -Many employees that have been at Gravity for 3 to 5 years have seen their pay increase by 50% to 100%! -Those who have taken a pay cut to work at Gravity did so because they valued our team/culture and think it will be a good long-term move Please do know that I value direct feedback. Here are the feedback mechanisms we have set up at Gravity: -Promising to never punish negative feedback, ever ever. That has never been violated. -I conduct open meeting hours twice a week and encourage everyone in our community to attend. -Each team member is solicited for direct feedback twice per year and basically gets a confidential meeting with HR where they can say anything and also ask anything they want to be off of the record -We have an annual survey and periodic survey on these types of issues -100% open door / open office environment. If I had a door, I would keep it open, but I work in the open with everyone else I am going to do everything I can to improve this without jeopardizing everyone’s jobs by hurting the company’s financial stability. I have found in my own life that the more I give and sacrifice, the more I get back. It seems to be a universal law to me. I am truly thankful for the opportunity to work at this company and to work for our clients. I need to do a better job trying to work for the team as well, and will absolutely do so. -Dan

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Unfortunately, the day-to-day culture doesn’t reflect the company’s public image. The environment can be chaotic and emotionally draining, with inner circles and cliques that often dictate who is supported or promoted. If you’re not part of certain groups, you may find yourself excluded from information, opportunities, or even basic collaboration. Leadership tends to overlook this dynamic and, in some cases, contributes to it. The CEO’s public reputation and personal controversies also cast a long shadow over the company, creating an uneasy tone from the top down. Overall, what’s marketed as a values-driven culture often feels performative and inconsistent in practice.

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