Interesting Times! - Senior Security Analyst Google Employee Review

4.0
12 Jun 2023
Recommend
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Pros

Joined Google via acquisition of Mandiant in Nov. 2022, which was shortly before the layoffs began in early 2023. Most (but not all!) Mandiant staff were retained despite the drastic cuts in headcount globally. As a result, our existing Mandiant stock packages continue to vest and pay out at $23/share, which was the acquisition share price, so that's why the stock figure here is inflated. My Google GSU's for 2023 are valued at roughly $40-50k (there will be slight fluctuations in share price throughout the year), while Mandiant RSU payouts will be about 40k. Benefits at Google are world-class in terms of 401k match, medical/dental/vision, student loan payment matching, legal perks (they have an attorney network similar to a medical network, and will help you find an attorney & cover costs of things like estate planning, closing costs on buying a house, prenups, personal contract disputes, traffic tickets, etc.).

Cons

Mandiant was very people-centric, so when you needed something, it was a matter of who you needed to talk to, and it wasn't hard to find the right person. At Google, it's impossible to operate the same way, given we are now part of an enterprise with about 100x our Mandiant's headcount. The beauracracy of corporate functions (legal, HR, payroll, recruiting, etc) is suffocating. We used to be nimble and quick at sorting out a lot of operational matters; things that took days now take 6-12 months. On the other side of the coin, Google's productivity expectations don't always suit the cybersecurity services industry very well. There is a huge push to bring new services to market, and to scale them faster and more aggressively than we ever would have done as an independent company. While the growth plan is admirable, in the security business rushing out a product or service that is incomplete or faulty can have severe ramifications. Bugs or process failings can lead to enterprise-scale clients having major security incidents, instead of just inconveniences for users of consumer products. It doesn't always seem like Google executives understand the gravity of this, or that their processes are not necessarily well-suited to sustaining or strengthening Mandiant's position as the world's leading cybersecurity firm. As a result, morale among the Mandiant teams is weakening. I suspect that as Mandiant stock bonuses finish paying out and the "golden handcuffs" loosen, existing staff will explore opportunities elsewhere unless they are given substantial raises and GSU refills. This will exacerbate existing headcount challenges, as hiring at Google is 5x slower than it was at Mandiant (cyber roles that used to fill in a month or two now take 6-10 months), and that will have negative ramifications for our clients. Also, the return-to-office campaign is crappy and tone-deaf. Google has exceptional corporate facilities around the world; let them do the talking for you, and the people who want to enjoy working in them will come back in on their own. If someone can't be convinced by all the free food & amenities, they won't be convinced by anything, so it's not worth belaboring the point and alienating those individuals. It's also really tone-deaf to push this on people whose job offers specifically were for remote positions, and who accepted the role with a clear understanding that they would not be required to appear in an office regularly.

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Pros

1) Food, food, food. 15+ cafes on main campus (MTV) alone. Mini-kitchens, snacks, drinks, free breakfast/lunch/dinner, all day, errr'day. 2) Benefits/perks. Free 24:7 gym access (on MTV campus). Free (self service) laundry (washer/dryer) available. Bowling alley. Volley ball pit. Custom-built and exclusive employee use only outdoor sport park (MTV). Free health/fitness assessments. Dog-friendly. Etc. etc. etc. 3) Compensation. In ~2010 or 2011, Google updated its compensation packages so that they were more competitive. 4) For the size of the organization (30K+), it has remained relatively innovative, nimble, and fast-paced and open with communication but, that is definitely changing (for the worse). 5) With so many departments, focus areas, and products, *in theory*, you should have plenty of opportunity to grow your career (horizontally or vertically). In practice, not true. 6) You get to work with some of the brightest, most innovative and hard-working/diligent minds in the industry. There's a "con" to that, too (see below).

Cons

1) Work/life balance. What balance? All those perks and benefits are an illusion. They keep you at work and they help you to be more productive. I've never met anybody at Google who actually time off on weekends or on vacations. You may not hear management say, "You have to work on weekends/vacations" but, they set the culture by doing so - and it inevitably trickles down. I don't know if Google inadvertently hires the work-a-holics or if they create work-a-holics in us. Regardless, I have seen way too many of the following: marriages fall apart, colleagues choosing work and projects over family, colleagues getting physically sick and ill because of stress, colleagues crying while at work because of the stress, colleagues shooting out emails at midnight, 1am, 2am, 3am. It is absolutely ridiculous and something needs to change. 2) Poor management. I think the issue is that, a majority of people love Google because they get to work on interesting technical problems - and these are the people that see little value in learning how to develop emotional intelligence. Perhaps they enjoy technical problems because people are too "difficult." People are promoted into management positions - not because they actually know how to lead/manage, but because they happen to be smart or because there is no other path to grow into. So there is a layer of intelligent individuals who are horrible managers and leaders. Yet, there is no value system to actually do anything about that because "emotional intelligence" or "adaptive leadership" are not taken seriously. 3) Jerks. Sure, there are a lot of brilliant people - but, sadly, there are also a lot of jerks (and, many times, they are one and the same). Years ago, that wasn't the case. I don't know if the pool of candidates is getting smaller, or maybe all the folks with great personalities cashed out and left, or maybe people are getting burned out and it's wearing on their personality and patience. I've heard stories of managers straight-up cussing out their employees and intimidating/scaring their employees into compliance. 4) It's a giant company now and, inevitably, it has become slower moving and is now layered with process and bureaucracy. So many political battles, empire building, territory grabbing. Google says, "Don't be evil." But, that practice doesn't seem to be put into place when it comes to internal practices. :(

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